Fired Up! First Steps to Drive Change in Your Local Community

Show Notes

I recently had such an inspiring chat with Dr. Lynn Carey about making a positive change in politics. As someone who’s questioned the mainstream narrative her whole life, Dr. Carey shared an eye-opening perspective on what unfolded in 2020. Like many of us, she was disturbed by the lockdowns and mandates being celebrated and enforced. It felt like an attack on basic freedoms.

Trying to speak out led to losing connections, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn next. Eventually Dr. Carey found a community discussing election integrity, constitutional rights, and going local to create change. She explains how getting involved with your county government and school boards is vital.

Understanding the constitution better equips you to recognize violations happening locally. I love Dr. Carey’s focus on taking positive action, even when it feels like an uphill battle. She encourages finding like-minded neighbors and picking manageable ways to make a difference in your community.

Whether you attend local government meetings, help with elections, or run for office yourself, we all have power to shape what’s happening close to home. Small consistent efforts can create ripples of lasting change. Dr. Carey’s optimism and practical tips left me feeling fired up! I hope her words inspire you too. Let me know what first step you’ll take after listening.

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00:00:09 – Johnny Sanders
Well, welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Faithfully Engaged. I am honored to have Dr. Lyn Carey on with me today. So why don’t you introduce yourself to the audience and just tell us a little bit about yourself.

00:00:24 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Great. Thank you for having me, Johnny. It’s an honor to be I. Where do I start? I think I’ve been on a journey my whole life. I kind of came into this world knowing there had to be more to life than what I was being shown in the mainstream world. And after the last few years, I think I was right on about a lot of things. It kind of connected so many dots, but I just really always questioned everything growing up. I ended up having a diagnosis of scoliosis when I was 14, which is curvature of the spine. I always did everything the medical world told me. That’s just what my family did. So I ended up having spinal surgery for it when I was 15. And the surgery itself was a success, but it left me sick and in pain for years that the medical world didn’t know what to do with me. So I was in college because I was told, you got to do that to be successful in life. I hated it, but I was there and someone told me to look into chiropractic as a profession. I was just kind of struggling to find myself. I was still symptomatic in pain. And I read the pamphlet on the chiropractic and it said, the power that made the body heals the body. And I thought that was the first time I heard truth. I’m like, why hasn’t anybody said this to me in all of this stuff I’ve been going through? So I just went to chiropractic school without even getting adjusted. I went on the philosophy, and it changed my life. And so for the past 25 years, I’ve been aware of the medical corruption that’s been going on. I’ve educated myself on money because I knew that was such a key part of what was controlling our daily lives and our health. So I really kind of been down the rabbit hole with I wanted to become financially free for myself. I knew they were not teaching this in school, in the school. So I was trying to educate myself, but it led me down the rabbit hole of understanding how corrupt our money system was. And then the last three years, what happened when they locked us down three years ago was just horrific. And I knew from day one it was horrific, but I also lost all of the network I was building for myself as an entrepreneur because I was speaking up against the lockdowns. And the masks and all that. And I educated myself on our constitution because I really was never into government because I couldn’t find truth in it. I’m always about, how do I find truth? I need things to make sense. And every time I watch somebody on tv or read an article, I’m like, this is a dog and pony show. Like, this is circus. I know they’re all lying to us. I didn’t realize how bad I wanted to vote because I wanted to be participating in. I didn’t want to be a complete outcast of society, but I kind of knew it wasn’t right. It wasn’t right. So these last three years made me deep dive into. I educated myself on the constitution, how going local in the county is where our power is. And so that piece of the puzzle came together for me. So a lot of things kind of all came into the mix for me in these last few years especially. So that’s the gist of who I am and where I am right now.

00:03:31 – Johnny Sanders
And we could spend three episodes on all sorts of different things of what you said there. I did really want to kind of hone in on, especially the last three years, I’ve talked with several other guests. And some of this just in general, anybody that’s lived through this period, it’s always going to have an effect on you some way, shape or form. Never in our history have we had that type of response to a pandemic before. It was just different. So we’re going to have an effect. And what I like about what you were saying there is you had a lot of background in knowledge for years and years. In some ways, you kind of remind me of my dad. Not in the career. My dad is a. Well, he actually recently just retired, but was in industrial hygiene, which I was never into engineering or whatever. I always told my friends, he makes sure people don’t blow up. That’s how I kind of phrased him. So he’s worked with chemicals and all sorts of stuff for years and years, and he has fitted people for n 95 mask for years, for decades. So when he’s talked about n 95, that wasn’t new to him at all. And when all the mask mandates and things like that came out, he’s like, wait, what? There’s a reason why we haven’t done this. We have all the data in the world to say that this is a dumb idea, but here we are, we’re doing it, and I’m imagining for you, when all this stuff’s coming out, you’re like, hey, this is what I’ve been studying. This is what I’ve been looking at for years. This is bad. And I kind of wanted to go back to you during that time frame when you are speaking out and it sounds like just censorship and people stepping away from you. How did you handle that? Of, like, I know I’m right, but people aren’t listening to me. How was that for you?

00:05:37 – Dr. Lynn Carey
I can’t believe that I felt surprised again, because I’ll give you a little background. When I opened up my practice as a chiropractor in 1998, I was ignorant, on fire. Had no idea what I was doing business wise. But I just went out on a passion because I knew natural healing changed my life. I got my health together. I saw there was a lot of medical corruption, and I knew people just needed to know. I thought they needed to know. And I went out like gangbusters, just wanting to share the message and people didn’t want to hear. I realized I was too far out. People didn’t really want to hear what I had to say. They weren’t ready for it. And it shocked me. Then I would tell them, you don’t need the back surgery. And they would say, oh, well, I already have it scheduled. I’m just going to do it. And I was like. I was, like, dumbfounded. So I had to get over. That was probably the first five years in practice. I kind of had to get over it. I felt like people just had to evolve on their own pace. Everybody has a right to come to terms with these things on their own. It’s a personal journey. Fast forward to 2020. I was losing my freedom to practice. I mean, I was educated. I already been through my health journey, very secure in my health journey. And what they were telling me in 2020 was not changing what I did for the last 20 years of my life at all. But they were coming at me that I was wrong. And I thought, oh, my gosh. And I’m trying to tell people this isn’t right, how they’re handling this. And people were angry at me, and I just couldn’t believe it. And that day marks, it was March twelveth. We locked down on March 13, but March twelveth 2020, I was at the Miami Beach Chamber of Commerce. I was running the health and Wellness Council, and I already had a problem with the health and Wellness council. I was doing it as a volunteer position. I loved being part of the chamber. It was me growing my network for my online business that I was building. And it was helping people with their lifestyle because I knew health, money, all these things were affecting well being, right? So I had retired my practice already in Delaware. I was following my dream to live in Miami beach, and people were coming in that day who were. I always. I have a problem with the health professionals. So many of them, even the alternative ones, don’t have a clue what they’re talking about when it comes to health. They’re still living in fear of the disease model and all this. And I know they haven’t had a personal experience, and that’s fine if they’re figuring it out. It’s hard for me to watch them guide people down the wrong path. Well, there was all these health and wellness professionals rolling in. They had masks on already and gloves, like, surgical gloves. And I was like, sitting there like, what in the heck is going on? Because I don’t follow mainstream news. I don’t buy into the hype. There’s probably been, like 20 diseases that they promoted in the last 20 years. There’s always a new one. I don’t go down their road because I know what it’s all about and how it works. This one, I never in a million years would have believed that this was happening. And I was just like, sitting there like, what in the world is going on? And then they locked us down. Those first six weeks, I had enough knowledge. I was studying the new world order a little bit. But my thing was, we create our own reality. I believe we are all empowered individuals. We can make choices. I’ve always found a way to live outside the mainstream system because that’s what I chose. So I always thought I had a choice, and I knew there was probably evil there, wrongdoing. But why do I need to focus on it? My focus was, I’m going to create my best life and try to be an outward light for other people and give them options for different paths in life that can really lead them to freedom. That’s always been my thing, health, money. But those first six weeks when they locked us down and I was sharing, I’m like, this is, I mean, my whole network. I didn’t even know what liberal meant. I remember asking my friend, who are the liberals? And he told me, democrats are like, they’re the ones who want to lock down everything. And I’m like, well, that’s not liberal. Isn’t liberal mean freedom? I said, they’re the communists. And I remember those first six weeks before I even thought, I didn’t even think Trump was good, and it’s not about him, but I was trying to sort through this mess of what? It was so horrific to me. I was going to bed crying at night because I thought, oh, my God, constant. This is how the Jews got locked up into camp. We’re going into the camp snacks. This is how severe it is. And these people don’t see it. They’re happy to stay home. They’re happy to throw the mask on. They’re happy to do whatever these people are telling them. And that was the most horrifying part for me, that they were turning on me. People that I thought were friends, people that I thought were rational human beings. It was like they glossed over and became a zombie and were attacking me. And I’m like, I don’t even have a right to live free anymore, and they don’t see it. So I was more afraid of the people around me who were falling for it than the few elites who were telling us what to do, right? Because I’m like, they have control of us because of this. This is how Nazi Germany happened. And it’s funny because a couple of years, I always like to learn. So for some reason, my money path, like trying to study the economy, led me to studying this woman who wrote a book about living through the concentration camps in Nazi Germany. She was from Hungary. She was in her 90s, told her story, and she said, I always remember our neighbors tried to warn us that they were coming, and we didn’t believe them. And it gives me chills talking about it, because that’s exactly what we lived in 2020. I’m like, oh, I’m trying to tell people, and they don’t believe me. And it’s happening all over again, and people don’t see it. It was one of the most horrific times until, thank God, I found some people who were connected with truth ers, right? I call them the truth or network. And I started, okay, there’s a plan, or we’re going to come out of this. Because I was just trying to make some sense out of. That was the craziest thing I’ve ever experienced.

00:11:38 – Johnny Sanders
It really is one of those where I almost sometimes think of an alternate reality type of thing, of if there was an alternate reality where, let’s say that didn’t happen, Covid never happened, and you have everybody that went through the last three years, and then somehow our reality and that alternate reality were able to talk to ourselves through that. The reality that never went through. Covid be like, what on earth are you talking about? It’s bizarre. Now, clearly, that’s not possible for us to do that, but none of us. Even in 2020, in March, twelveth of 2020, nobody would have considered that. And here we are in middle of March 2020, and not only is it happening, but it’s being accepted and it’s being celebrated. And I think that’s one of the things that was chilling to me, is. Yeah. That it’s not just a, oh, this is a hard time, but people were turning on people. We were closing down. I’ve seen a lot of pictures. It almost seems like old relics from March and April of 2020 of. In the grocery stores where you could only go one direction, had those signs on the floor of basketball goals, that they were taking the rims down and stuff so kids couldn’t play on basketball goals and police taping up merry go rounds. That’s crazy stuff. That’s not normal. But you and I, in that situation, we felt like the crazy ones for thinking that it wasn’t normal. Everything was upside down. Just an incredibly crazy time. So kind of walk me through this. Kind of leads into the whole constitution and your involvement. How did that go from, like, wow, this feel like I’m living in crazy world? How did that transition into you being really more involved from somebody that was not political at all to being more involved in politics? How were you able to kind of make that shift, that personal shift?

00:13:55 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Because I’m the type of person who wants answers. I don’t want to just keep rehashing the trauma, either. I want to find a solution. There’s a lot of people just keep watching videos and then just get stuck. And I’m not saying I was watching videos to educate myself on what was going on, but eventually, you get to the point where you’re seeing the same message over and over again of him. Like, I got the story now what do we do to change it? And I guess through those videos, you know, there was defend Florida was the first piece that I saw that they were saying that the election was stolen, and this is one way that. But even that was kind of big. And then I just remember hearing Sheriff Mack. Are you familiar with Sheriff Mack?

00:14:38 – Johnny Sanders
Vaguely. Like, I recognize the name, and I’ve seen a few videos, but I wouldn’t say that I’m super.

00:14:46 – Dr. Lynn Carey
I wish I documented my journey of what led me to what, but I know I saw him on an interview, and I always look when something resonates with me, I go into it. I want to follow and get to the bottom of it. And Sheriff Mack is CSPOA County Sheriff and peace Officers association. He had fought the Clintons back in the 90s on gun control and won. He was a local county in Arizona at the time. So he’s been standing up because he’s been seeing this corruption of our constitution. He was a police officer. He realized, he said, hey, I took an oath, and what are we actually doing here? Things that I’m doing, even given speeding tickets, really doesn’t match the oath that I took. He started questioning everything, and he stood up in his local county. Once he took his own constitutional course, he understood. So he has this organization, and I took his course on it, and I just realized that everybody thinks that we have to go to the top right in the federal government, but really it goes back to the state. It goes back to your local county, is where all the power is. That made sense to me. I’m like, okay, well, I was a little horrified because in Miami beach, we had one of the most corrupt mayors around. He was horrible, and the whole town was good with it, even though Florida was a free state. I was in a very blue, um, so I understood that. And so I was following Chris Ann hall. There was Doug Gibbs. He was on Patriot street fighter. I remember he was doing like a constitutional discussion every Tuesday. I was just trying to find things, because you just have to keep reiterating things until become second nature. And so I realized I had to get, I started going to the local school board meetings, and then I found an organization. They just changed their name to citizens defending freedom, but it was county citizens defending freedom at the time. They’re in Polk county. They started in Polk County, Florida, and it was about going to the school board, going to your local commission meetings, and understanding what’s going on there and also exposing what the media is doing, like shining a light on what our local politicians are doing and asking them, trying to build a relationship with them, saying, hey, why are you doing this? If they won’t answer us, then we can bring in media and shine a light on to say, hey, all of us want to know why you’re doing what you’re doing. So they can’t hide in the darkness anymore. And that’s what they’ve been doing for years. So really, that’s what it is. It’s about really just getting involved locally in your county meeting and the school board meeting. And I tell you, I was horrified. I’m not a big component of our educational system at all. And the last three years gave me double reason. And I went through school. I was an a student, an honor student. I worked hard because they told me I needed to. And I should. I was not really trying to buck the current at the time, even though I questioned it. But I hated school. And when I got out and I was trying to build my practice, I read a book called Rich dad, poor dad by Robert Kiyosaki, and he talks about financial freedom and financial education, that we don’t get that in school. And I knew that. And I’m like, I knew I wasted my time in school. I just knew it. And so that’s what kind of led me down the path of understanding the economy, because I saw how much it was affecting people coming into my office and their health and the choices that we’re making. And they’re like, they could only do what insurance dictated. Even buying organic food was expensive. They couldn’t afford it. I mean, we were living in an upside down world for a long time, and I questioned all these things. So when I understood the local county, we had to get back there and the school board. I raised my son. I’m sorry, there’s a million things that I could say right now. I raised my son outside the school system like he was always home schooled because I knew there was a lot of issues I had. I figured it didn’t give me anything I needed. I didn’t want to put him through that. What I saw happening, that there’s an agenda that are actually programming our children to be socialists, to be communists, to not think for themselves, it connected so many dots that I saw happening that I didn’t understand. But when I went to the school board, I really saw that the devil was sitting on the school board. These people, it was just evil. And they were all sitting up, their masks, talking about all they do is praise each other. They don’t even accomplish anything. They want you to sit in a meeting once a month all day long. Who has the time as a working parent to go to a school board meeting and sit there all day long to be able to speak at the end in the evening and they don’t accomplish anything. They just keep appraising each other. Oh, Dr. So and so, you’re this. Oh. Dr. So and so. Congratulations on this. I mean, it was a bogus, bogus what was going on. And I just couldn’t believe it. It just made me sick to my stomach to even be there that we were at this point. I thought, oh, my God, society is so far gone, and our taxpayer dollars are paying these people big money to sit up there. Our superintendent.

00:20:13 – Johnny Sanders
Just real quick, you kind of cut out there for, I don’t know, 1015 seconds. So I didn’t hear that last little bit there.

00:20:21 – Dr. Lynn Carey
The superintendent of the Miami Dade school board got transferred out into California. And I said, it’s funny because he went out there with the full on communist political agenda out there, because I think we were getting a little too. The heat was getting turned up on him in Florida. There was too many people awake there. So it’s funny that he was making a fortune, and he was no problem locking kids down. I mean, the governor was telling us everything was open. They were still masking the know when it wasn’t even any kind of mandate, far from it. And they were still masking these poor kids up. I mean, to me, I was witnessing child abuse. And the thing is, it was even harder, is like my whole life got turned upside down in these last three years. I’m kind of still suffering, I think, post traumatic stress syndrome a little bit because I look at other people and it’s like nothing happened. They just lived their lives like normal. They just put the mask on. They still had their job, they still had their income, all this stuff. Mine was like, the rug was pulled out from under me, and I’m still trying to lick my wounds and rebuild myself and recover. And it’s just kind of. My son’s 17, and his life was turned upside down, too. And we always talk about BC, because when you say we couldn’t have seen what was coming, I’m like, oh, that was February of 2020. We had no idea. We were just living the good life. So it’s just been a journey. And now I feel like I have tools to empower myself on how to vote, how to get involved, where is the right action? Because I understand the constitution. I have at least a basis of what is right and wrong and what the local county government should be doing and how I can make a difference. And fighting for election integrity, that was the main other thing, is the county citizens defending freedom was going after election integrity. So how are our elections being held at the local level, and how can we witness them, watch them verify signatures? What is your process? We started becoming friendly with the supervisor of election, so all these things, he had to kind of pick your poison. Do you want to work on election integrity? You want to go to a school board meeting? Because it became a lot of work, right? And you see why they made it so complicated, because it keeps the average person out, because they’re so busy, stuck in the design of the rat race. It’s all by design. They’ve just built this, and we’re supposedly the land of the free. And we’ve been slowly, slowly, slowly becoming enslaved over the years here. It’s just from the creation of the Federal Reserve to the stealing of our elections. And it’s been very subtle, very small steps, increments along the way until we got to this point right now.

00:23:16 – Johnny Sanders
And I think that’s the power of subtlety. It’s kind of the old notion of boiling the frog, right? You don’t just turn it up all at once. You got to acclimate. And that’s something that, as a populace, I’ll say this more personally, as a dad, the COVID years really affect me on a personal level. My daughter was born in September of 2019. So just before it was BC, just a little BC there, and then my son was born in 2021, and things were a little bit more lax then. And I’m in Oklahoma, so things by and large were fairly laxed compared to most parts of the country. But I distinctly remember during that timeframe, if we were going to the doctor and they required mask, my daughter, who during these time frames wasn’t one yet, she hated mask on us. I refuse to do my children. I’ve never worn any mask. I refuse that. But if I had a mask on, she would immediately pull it down because she knows my face. That’s how children communicate. They look at their parents faces, at other people’s faces, and they match that. And she understood that. She’s, like, six months old or something at the time, and she knew. I remember sitting there like, my six month old daughter understands this. She knows why this is silly. Why don’t the doctors, why don’t the people that are the pediatricians saying that this is fine for kids to wear? No, it’s not. And, yeah, just that kind of that. Man, what is going on here? Am I the only one thinking this way? Am I the crazy one? And what I really like about what you’re saying there is, you didn’t just take that and say, yes, world’s terrible. Nothing I can do about it. No, I’m going to do what I can. I’m going to go to these school board meetings. I’m going to make my votes known in local elections and giving just another quick story of this is 2020, the presidential election that happened. This is just kind of anecdotal, but there was a very high turnout. Lots of cars at my local polling place, lots and lots of people there, which is good. I’m glad people were voting. But a couple of months prior, we had a vary for our town, which is about 23 or so thousand people. So fairly small community. So generally the mayor race isn’t that big of a deal. It’s like, yeah, whoever’s mayor is mayor, nothing really changes. Well, this one was a fairly large deal that the incumbent wasn’t running. So on one hand you had kind of the one that had the most money, saw signs everywhere that was more kind of pro mask mandate and things of that nature. And then the other person was not, and I don’t know this for certain, I do think that it was a higher voted upon election, but not nearly like the presidential one. Not even close. We got in and out of there in two minutes or something. Not many people there. And that election, which the person that didn’t want mandates was the one that ended up winning despite being outspent like crazy. You barely saw any of his signs, but enough of us decided, hey, we don’t want these mandates, so we’re going to vote for him. That election had far more impact on me and my family than the presidential one. Whether we want to say that was stolen or not, that’s a whole other big conversation. And certainly it’s had effects. No shock. I’m not too big of a fan of the administration we have in there currently, but that local election had massive, massive impacts. And I get very disheartened when I show up to vote for a city council or whatever it may be, and there’s four cars in the parking lot. Those are important. Those school board meetings are important. And we need more people like you speaking out of, don’t just vote in November. Vote in September, in August, and those off months that don’t seem like they’re a big deal. No, they’re a very big deal and probably bigger than you realize.

00:27:58 – Dr. Lynn Carey
That’s such a great example, though. See how powerful that is. If people could understand that concept. It’s the local mayor, the local commissioners, the local county that you’re voting for is really where the power is because that’s going to affect your really, we are, our constitution is set up to go local. Those powers in the state, really, governors should have more power than the president. The federal government is supposed to be underneath of us. They are supposed to be our employees and we’re so upside down. They’re like running our lives and stealing from us. Like full on criminal action is happening and it’s accepted. How did we get to this point? It’s so surreal. But that’s where we take our power back and that’s how it can trickle up or trickle out from the local county. I wish more people would understand that.

00:28:52 – Johnny Sanders
And that’s the right terminology, is take our power back, instead of, we need to just vote better in the presidential election or the Senate election or whatever, which I’m not saying is not important. It is, but the structure there is messed up. And when we take that power back again in my city, then it doesn’t matter what happens in these other areas of the country now, my town’s okay. We’re able to go around okay. Thankfully, my state, in your state, although your city kind of messed you up there, weren’t as strong as some other areas. But even in California, I know of some local places where sheriffs were like, nope, we’re not doing this. I don’t care what you say, newsome. We’re not going to. And I’m sure their citizens love them for that. And that’s what it takes. It’s saying, this is within my power.

00:30:02 – Dr. Lynn Carey
That’s the key piece there. When I was talking about Sheriff Mack, he says the sheriff really has so much authority in the local county to stand up to the federal government if they come in with an, you know, out of line. I mean, the sheriff is supposed to protect the people’s natural rights, to stand up for our constitution. And there’s so many sheriffs that are bought now and under the corruption of the big government. And so that’s if we really, every citizen really, we all need to get back to our constitution. If we all just took a simple start of following the constitution, there’s so much stuff online. Start learning about your constitution, everything becomes very clear and simplified. I always say, truth is always simple when it’s complicated, we know we’re in the dark, so if we can get back to that, and this way we can educate people who are going in to take a position in our government, our local government, to become the next sheriff. I mean, in Miami Dade county, we don’t even have a sheriff anymore. That position was taken out a long time ago. We were the only county that didn’t have a sheriff. I knew we were in trouble. That was my first sign. I was like, but see, this is where people educated themselves on these basics. We changed the whole world. The whole country would be amazing. And I’m sure other countries have the same thing going on, too, but especially here in the United States, it’s really powerful.

00:31:32 – Johnny Sanders
I think what’s so important here in our country, as opposed to other ones where, yes, we have all sorts of problems, especially when we get into federal government overreach and the billion different agencies that are up there. Yeah, we have problems, don’t get me wrong. But when you get to the source document of the constitution, while I won’t say is a perfect document, because I don’t think anything man made will ever be perfect, it stood the test of time. It’s gone through a lot of really rough things. So our foundation, having freedom of speech, having recognition that these rights were given to us not by man, but are recognized by man, given by God, that’s a big deal. So we have a lot of great things that are already there, whereas other countries, they may need to make a new document, try to make a better government. We already got a pretty darn good one. It’s about recovering it and getting that power back, like you said. And there’s no easy answers. There’s no snap your fingers and then we get it. But it takes action. You can’t just sit back and, oh, Covid’s mostly over now. We won’t do that again. We’ll be fine. That’s not a winning strategy. You got to act. You need to act on behalf of you and your well being, but also if you have kids for their well being and just for the society as a whole, it’s really important, and it goes beyond just you, of why we need to act and have more people involved in the process.

00:33:21 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Yeah, that’s why it’s funny. I feel like I turned down my message a little bit. I mean, I was even speaking up from 1998 to 2003 about the dangers of vaccine and all the adverse reactions. I chose to have my son at home. He was not vaccinated. He’s 17 years old. So I’ve been doing this for a long time. But I remember there was one organization at the time, it was a national vaccine information center, and I was supporting that. But every time I got one of their letters, it was like they always needed more money. It was always in a political fight. And I’m like, I just don’t want to live my life in a fight. I want to live my life in joy. I want to be an before, when I got back into it, a couple of years before the lockdowns, I started hearing that New Jersey or New York, they were saying, you have to get vaccinated before you go to school. And I was like, what? Because people already thought that back in the day, oh, well, your kids have to be vaccinated to go to school. And I’m like, no, they don’t. You can sign a paper. Most parents don’t question. So I already knew there was always a way around the system, no big deal. But when I kind of heard on the outside, like, there was this stuff going on with mandatory for colleges and things like that, I was a little horrified. But then we went right into, I mean, it was right before, and then we went into lockdowns, and I saw the whole agenda, but I saw, like, del Bigtree and Robert Kennedy, Jr. And all these people who were speaking up for a while who got into the vaccine fight, and I was like, wow. I didn’t realize all this was going because I kind of removed myself from it, and I just got tired of people not wanting to hear what I had to say, you know what I mean? In that respect. I just kind of watered it down for my own sanity. But after these last three years, that’s why I felt like I have so much background. I’m like, you know what? I think it’s important that I speak up now and share because I am walking a different path. There is another path to follow, and it’s okay. And I think people need more stories of empowerment, of how we heal ourselves, how we can be financially free, how we can have control in our own local government, things like that. So that’s where I kind of stepped back into where I feel like it is important, because I feel like it’s important for, like, I was crying when we locked down. I thought, oh, my God, what did I bring my son into? What kind of future is he going to have? So I want to do it for him, for the kids, for the future, and just for the collective consciousness, because you know what? We’re all affecting each other. I never felt that, like I did more than in 2020 when I felt like I didn’t have the right to just choose how I took care of my own body. So it’s more important than ever to. We kind of have to get it out there.

00:36:05 – Johnny Sanders
Absolutely. And I had an experience that I hadn’t really had previous. My wife and I, in, I believe it was June or July of 2020, we switched which church we were going to and the church we were going to previously was meeting, but they had, like, sectioned out rows and stuff like that. So you weren’t next to people. And the new church we went to was not that way. People were shaking hands. They were singing next to you. And I hadn’t had quite that experience of like, wow, I need that personal contact. I need that people shaking my hand. It wasn’t a want. It wasn’t a nice thing. It was needed. We impact one another way, more than you think. We kind of think it’s just me and my family or whatever. Nobody else is really affected by me or my actions. It’s just not true. Our communities are connected. We’re as social beings. So what you do does matter, and what you don’t do matters, too. We don’t live in a vacuum.

00:37:14 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Absolutely. That’s why I like to give people. That’s why I want to know what practical action I can do. Because I always want to be positive. I don’t want to stay stuck in the negative stuff. I want to look at what positive action can I do for myself and for others today. I’ve always been wired like that to look for what positive things can we do. And I think that’s the ripple effect that we want to go out into the world.

00:37:37 – Johnny Sanders
And I love that attitude you just brought there. That is really the main basis behind this podcast is I have seen so much content that are more conservative in nature, more christian in nature, that is focused on what’s going wrong. And don’t get me wrong, we just talked a lot about what’s going wrong. I’m not downplaying that. That’s important for us to have a basis of reality and knowing what’s wrong. That’s good. However, the issue is when we stay there and I’m just stuck flipping tv or on my phone, yes, this is bad. That’s bad. It’s all bad. And then you’re just left feeling angry, apathetic, and then you don’t do anything with your life. That’s not the way we’re created. That’s not what we’re meant to do. So why I made this podcast the way it is is I want to talk with people that are doing something in their life and trying to encourage listeners to. Yeah, you can do something, too. It’s okay to recognize things are wrong, but what can you do to make an impact? And maybe that is going to that school board meeting. Maybe that’s talking about finding information about constitution. During COVID I took a free constitution class on Hillsdale. Hillsdale College has wonderful free.

00:39:06 – Dr. Lynn Carey
They do.

00:39:07 – Johnny Sanders
It’s fantastic content free. Go do the another thing we got was the federalist papers. During that time, I was like, I want to have stuff in paper just in case things get reprinted or whatever. So go read the federalist papers. Just go do something. And then maybe you start figuring things out a little bit more specific throughout the line. But don’t wait to figure out your five year plan before you do something. Just do something, and then you can figure it out along the way. But sitting back and just complaining, that’s not good enough. That’s not helping anything.

00:39:46 – Dr. Lynn Carey
I totally agree. Well said.

00:39:50 – Johnny Sanders
So for you, if you were to give the listeners, let’s say they’re like, yes, I’m with you. I want to start doing something locally, but I hear what you’re saying, but I’m just confused. I just don’t know where to go, how to get started. What advice would you give them in order just to get the ball rolling, so to speak?

00:40:14 – Dr. Lynn Carey
So my two favorites are, I would say jump into the constitution, because if you want to understand, start learning about it. And I’m sure there’s free stuff online. You could follow Sheriff Mack, Chris Ann hall, you could go to Hillsdale, like you said, college. There’s so much information. Start understanding, and then go to a local county meeting and see what’s going on in your town. Meet the people who are running your town and see if they’re following what you learned about the constitution. You’re going to see real quick who’s bought and who’s doing it for the right reasons. And it becomes crystal clear. And because I was never political, I was always independent. And there was a school of thought that we can infiltrate because we have a uni party. Let’s face it’s not about republican or Democrat. We have just as many corrupt republicans. But I chose to register just a year ago. I registered as a Republican because I thought I can go into the local republican meeting so I can vote for that party on the side because it was less corrupt than the other side was the take. And there’s a lot of make America great again, make America first. People in there infiltrating the republican side. But we had a real fight with a lot of the people who are bought in to the way they’re not awake to America first at all. They want the old school or whatever, the corrupt system. They want that to continue. They want to have their bought politicians and lobbyist politicians in there. So you could even infiltrate the republican side if it’s less corrupt in your town. And that’s what I did. I sort of gone to those meetings because you can start making a movement, meet your neighbors, see if they want to go, too. I mean, that’s the way to do it. But once you understand that constitution, you can see what side people are on. Find the people who are awake, find the people who really are trying to do the right thing and befriend them, reach out of hand maybe you make phone calls for the people. Maybe you can be, what’s the word? You can go to the election and you watch the elections. I can’t think of the why. I’m blanking out.

00:42:32 – Johnny Sanders
I know what you’re talking about, but I’m blanking on that term, too. But I know what you’re saying.

00:42:36 – Dr. Lynn Carey
You can help run the elections. You can be there and be a witness to make sure things are proper. There’s a lot of things you can do. It doesn’t have to pick one. Just pick one. You don’t have to be overwhelmed and pick one. If and it’s not working out, try another one. But you’re going to start to see where the need is once you go to the meeting, you can see what needs to be done once you’re armed. Understanding the constitution, because before I understood the constitution, and I’m not saying I understand it at 100%, I can’t sit here and reiterate it, or I’m not going to teach it to somebody else at this point. But that’s my basis. I can kind of gauge myself. That’s my blueprint. I didn’t understand how to see what was right or wrong before that. That’s why I never really got involved because it was very confusing to me and it didn’t make sense. And I saw that they’re fighting for issues, but I realized they just kept going around and around. They were never solving the issue. And the issue just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And I’m like, I saw that in medicine, too. I’m like, they’re always creating a disease and then there’s another one to fix after. And I thought there’s a problem with that. I needed to step out of that world. So when you understand the constitution, you can see that there are solutions, but it’s getting this big money and lobbyists and corporations out of our government.

00:43:58 – Johnny Sanders
Yeah, no, I like it. And I love what you said there of pick something. If it doesn’t work, pick something else. That takes so much pressure off, just go do I think that’s really what it comes down to learn and do something? Don’t just sit back. I’m imagining people that are listening to this, that like, man, I love what she’s saying. I want to be in touch with her more often, that they would love to do that. So where can people be in contact with them? And what other information would you like to share with the audience today?

00:44:35 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Yeah, sure. So I have a website, And you can email me there and ask me any question, and I can do my best to answer it.

00:44:44 – Johnny Sanders
Great. Well, I’ll have that linked down there in the show notes below so you will be able to do that. I encourage everyone listening to go ahead and do that. And, yeah. Thank you again so much for being on and really shedding light into the importance of impacting the community right around you and not just the federal election.

00:45:04 – Dr. Lynn Carey
Yeah. Thank you so much, Johnny, for having me on and for getting this message out. I think it’s really important.

00:45:09 – Johnny Sanders
Absolutely. And thanks again to everyone that joined us for another episode, and we’ll catch you on the next one. Take care.